May have to bow out of this one chaps.

Not at all Gadge , I am more than willing to pick you up on Friday morning and take you to the event if you can reschedule your doctors visit . I also resent the fact that having argued with Josh on your behalf you accuse me of not wanting you there.

Put bluntly, you pissed off Josh , the bloke who's game we are going to, by, as he sees it, sniping at him on this forum, and I let you know this a couple of weeks ago . He's not mentioned it since, but he felt , rightly or wrongly , that the hostility he felt was not what he was expecting from a member of the group he had approached to help co organise/promote his event. Without being funny, it is entirely a situation you have created , and I have no idea if you took the time ot PM him ot sort things out.

He is organising this event to make money , thats how he earns his living, and he's never once tried to hide that fact. I'm sure you don't DJ for free either . He approached us to make his first event better than it would be otherwise , and we'll find out on the day how good or bad it is .

So in summary

You can throw the teddies out of the cot , feel sorry for yourself and mope about it , or you can reschedule your doctors appointment , stock up on the painkillers and buy some cushions for the trip down to Wales and have a good weekend with the rest of us .

Offers there, make your choice.

You're quite unvelievable at times do you know that Guy.

I cant reschedule an appointment to see a spinal surgeon, its will take months to get another place. I've been waiting a very long time to get this appointment and have spent the last two evening in queens med i've been in that much pain.

If Josh is offended that i pointedout some of his ideas were absolute rubbish then its not me who is throwing teddies out of cots.

We all felt the rules were shite, i was the only one who openly said so.

I'm not the only one with little confidnece in this event, as others have said having no firm ruleset less than a fortnight before the off doesnt look good.

And i reguallry DJ for free because i enjoy doing it.....

I'd say more Guy but i think it wouldnt be condusive to PBI and CiA working togehter anymore... needless to say your attitude constantly amazes me.

Having bullied me out of CiA I htught you'd be happy with that, obviously not, you feel the eed to conitnue to dig and pick.

You are something of a bully really guy, you should be aware of that.

Sorry but you've persistantly hurt me deeply anbd shown complete double standards on ths forum.

I think it for the best if you and I had as little to do with each other as possible form now on to be honest.

You've obviously got a problme with me , i'm aware of that, please stop digging at me at a time in my life when i really dont need it.

Incredible . All I try to do is dig you out when you've created your own mess.

Who called Stubble repeatedly to get the training day back on , after your pissing about had nearly cancelled the event ? Not you lad, it was me . And after all that crap you went and enjoyed yourself , which makes me wonder why have all the nonsense in the first place .

You pissed up Joshes back and it's me who's calmed the waters with him .

Don't accuse me of having a dig, you're your own worst enemy , all I've tried doing is helping you out of the holes you've dug .

Even now, when I've secured you a free place to this event , and offered ot drive 80 miles out of my way to take you there, you're still accusing me of having a go .
Your understanding of people is seriously adrift mate .

For the record, I didn't bully you out of CiA , I merely got the ball rolling after many hours spent on the telephone to the others trying ot see a way through . And the catalyst for that was the off hand way you manage ot piss people of on this forum ...have you noticed a repeating theme here yet ? If you learn to to think twice and post once , you'd get on a lot better . You're not bolshy in the flesh , but your forum manner comes across badly .

Rubbish Guy

You pushed me out, nobody else wanted the result we ended up with.

If everybody else wanted me out perhaps you should have let them speak to me rather thna having a ring around to get everyone on side wiht you.

As far as recall when this came up that rich and I left most folk said it wasnt how they wanted things to end.

You hurt me very very deeply there.

And you yourself have commented on how erratic stubblehopper is cancelling thne not cancelling so dont blame me for that.

If i piss people off on this forum at least its becasue i say what i feel honeslty rather than sniping about them behned their back constanlty in the 'annoying users bitching thread'

At least i say what i think.

Guy i'm sorry but you are a bully and you did push me out of CiA.

I'm a a very dificult time in my life right now and airsoft should be pleasure and release form the stress and pain im in but insterad it becomes stupid arguments and battles and getting stabbed in the back by peopel you respected.

Well you sit there and believe whatever nonsense makes you feel better , you obviously can't see the wood for the trees. It's everyone fault but you're own etc etc .

Four of us struggled to make you understand why your approach was poor back in August . Three months on and we're having the same debate again , although this time there's little purpose to continuing it .

Regardless of all this crap , the offer still stands , if you can get your arse down to DDay there is a place for you , and if you can stand me bullying you in the cab of the Rover for four hours I'll pick you up on the way .

Its not nonesense its facts... read through the thread and some of the stuff you've said about our players then been sweetness and light to them to their faces, sorry i just cant do that.

While you're at it read the replies you sent to spiers regarding CR, i may have upset players via PM but I never was that openely rude to them but obviously its ok for you to do that, but not for me.

As for the lift

Thanks but no thanks.

As i said i've waited long enough to see a spinal surgeon I'm not going to waste that opportunity.

Well i've said all i need to say, riposte at leisure but i just wanted to point out that I'm increasingly annoyed by the way it seems that CiA=GUY, and for that reason i'm glad i'm out of it.

I do appreciate your offer of a lift and I know you honestly dont think that your attitude and behaviour might be as off as you perceive mine to be, we're never going to see eye to eye there i think.

I just felt it wa stime to let you know that you have hurt me quite deeply.

Its funny how i've never had any major disgreemenet wiht anybody else in CiA but somehow you and I clash.

So liek i say peorhas best if we leave each other be.

OK guys. Let's call it quits there for a second.

Gadge, Guy wasn't the only one who felt your online persona was causing negative ripples across the forum. As I said to you in the PM conversation we had I do feel that you can come across as belligerent and arrogant online, even though I know that's not how you are in person, and you have pissed people off. Regardless of who you think is being precious about it, they did feel annoyed by your words and regardless of how you phrased it all, you were speaking as a member of CiA's organisation team, hence a few of us started to see cracks appearing.

I think Rich and your decision to start the PBI group was the best way in which we could continue to work on stuff together without getting emboiled in pettiness.

You, Rich and Guy all have strong opinions and personalities which seem to have clashed at various points. Guy wasn't instrumental in pushing you out, but he did make his thoughts known clearly to everyone.

The way I see it we came to an amicable and workable way to 'split' also stay together. A sort of 'fuck-buddy' approach, all the fun without the emotion.

Like I said to you before, I do sometimes worry that you aren't seeing things in perspective and also worry that you aren't doing too good. If there's anything you want to chat about you can PM or email me or call on an evening.

I hope this is all making sense, I'm just writing this off the cuff to try and stop this escalating argument. Perhaps the best way to have this sort of conversation in the future is over the phone or in person so you can get a better idea of one-another's tone.

Now, let's leave it there.

i've said all i need to say

It's all true , I'm a total cunt .

I hereby resign from all CiA activities from this point forward.

Stephen , it's just a difference of view, we'll just have to agree to disagree. We could have another thirty posts of flaming , it wouldn't produce anything other than increasing bad vibes.

I've got off my chest what I've kept quiet for a while , and I think Gareth has too . As far as I'm concerned we've had our exchange of views , that's the end of it .

Well at least you both agree on that!

Good, now I can stop deleting my posts before pressing the 'submit' button!

me too!

Anybody want ot have a last say before I lock this miserable thread ?